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A Letter from Karl J.  And My Reply

 

 

 

Dear Karl,

Please allow me to state before we get started that I am not trying to be facetious, cute, or hateful but I refuse to compromise God’s word in any way, shape, or form. Period! I sometimes become as Christ was when he entered the temple only to find the money changers. And since Christ became upset to say the least then I, if I am to be Christ like, should too become upset when I uncover ungodly practices taking place.  And I  should try to show the way according to Bible truths...

And so although I answer this letter in love you'll detect that I am definitely not pleased with false teachings or religions... You may not like me. You my not like what I'm about to say in answer to this letter. But when we're finished you'll be able to truthfully say that Jim Keeling is standing by his convections concerning the Word of God. If this lesson upsets you, or offends you, or even makes you mad enough to chew nails; Then forgive my inability to convey it in a more tasteful manor.  But some things, no matter how delicately put can not stop the rage which wells up in some folks when the truth hit them between the eyes. If you don't like this lesson then don't holler at me. I didn't write the book, I'm only the messenger. Take it up with God. I'm sure that God will answer you satisfactorily if only you'll listen to His leading...   

Mathew 21; 12, 13

12

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
temple John 2:15
moneychangers Deut 14:25

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And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Isa 56:7, Jer 7:11, Mark 11:17 Luke 19:46


 

And now for our letter lesson...


My reply to your letter; I have placed in
dark red so as not to be misunderstood or confused. You seem to have enough of that in your life already…

 Note; I have removed Karl's last name and email address so as not to embarrass him. Embarrassment is not the intent here but to learn  and glean from the word of God.

Karl J. wrote:

I came across your site and must say all in all it is a relatively good one
but I do take issue with some of your content. I read every link you have
regarding why you will not watch the movie "The Passion Of The Christ" I
myself have not seen the movie but that doesn't make any difference. You
proclaim to be a Christian but your intolerance of others, especially the
Catholic Faith is obvious. That is not a Christian attitude. 

I recognize the fact that there are many different churches, religions, and faiths. False religions which are deceiving many and misleading them with the misconception that they are going to heaven when in actuality they are going to split hell wide open and spend eternity in that terrible place. As a Christian, should I be passive and tolerant, not wanting to step on some ones toes, keeping the gospel of Christ to myself and not warn them of their folly? This is the trouble with believing Christians around the world now. Tolerance is just another word for hiding your light under a bushel but the Bible says that we are to be a light in the world.  
 

Mathew 5: 13, 16
[13] Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
[14] Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
[15] Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
[16] Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.


For your information Catholic means Universal therefore Catholic Church
means universal church.

Yes and most in this universal church haven’t a clue as to how to be saved and born again. Which means most are in this false church and headed to a devils hell. The church which Christ established was a local, visible, body of baptized believers and have progressed down thru the ages and even are some today. But the Catholic universal church isn’t one of them…

Until King Henry VIII of England broke away from Rome and formed a
Protestant Religion because the Pope would not allow him to annul his
marriage with his first wife the Catholic Church was the basis of all
Christianity.

Later came the nailing of the proclamation by Martin Luther which further
disintergrated the Christian church. Most of Northern Europe became
Lutheran, England became Protestant and Southern Europe remained Catholic.
(generally speaking)

With a large influx of immigrants to the United States Of America in the
19th and early 20th century from all over Europe and the United Kingdom
(including Catholic Ireland) they took their religions with them. As time
wore on further splinter groups developed until there became a number of
Christian Religions all claiming to be the way to salvation. I could name
many, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptist, and so on but the fact remains
that the basis of all Christian faith was in the church of Rome.

Well thank you for this history lesson and this list of other false religions but let’s not stop there. (And I must agree that there are some sects of Baptist which are teaching false doctrine but they are not true Baptist but just using the Baptist name) It was also the church at Rome which persecuted the early Christians, known as Ana Baptist, and fed them to the lions. The early Christians were tortured on racks and beaten, burned at the stake, or beheaded and their heads, placed on top of poles, lined the roads to Rome for all to see and witness... 

We also have the self proclaimed messiahs who preach that they are the road
to salvation. Where do they get that from? 

Some of the ones they get that from are called Priest. You know, the ones who sit hiding in those little confessionals and misguide and have people confess their sins to them and pray to them or to Mary to be absolved when only God can forgive them their sins and not a man or a woman... The priest who take peoples money to pray their lost and dead out of hell. Which, by the way, can not be done according to the Bible.

You can read of such a Priests, a Jesuit Priest by the name of Alberto Rivera, who found Christ and became saved and denounced the Priesthood and its false teachings and the Catholic Church. It’s found in the Chick Publications called’ The Crusaders Series, Vol. 12, Alberto… You can read this story in comic book form for easy understanding at:   http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0112/albertoindex.asp


Jesus Christ himself said at the Last Supper when handing to his apostles
the bread and wine. "Do this in memory of me"

You are right here. Jesus did say this. It happens to be one of the two ordinances which Christ left for His church to observe. The other one is Baptism by emersion… These two ordinances are to be for the Christian believer… Baptism, the first work of a new born again and saved child of God to show the world and depict their salvation by the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. But only after they have been saved… This is to be done in a local, visible, body of believer’s church which Christ has established.

Ref. with a Bible link can be read here:  http://www.geocities.com/ambc202000/baptist_belief.html

The first ordinance is Baptism.
1. Who is baptism for in The New Testament?
Answer. Baptism is for the believer.

( Mark 16: 15, 16---Rom. 6: 1, 6)

a. How are the saved to be baptized?
Emersion.
( Rom. 6: 3, 4 )

The second ordinance is The Lord's Supper.
1. What is the Lord's supper for? We so in remembrance and show the Lord's death till he comes
. ( I Corinthians 11: 24, 34)



Further to that Jesus also said of Saint Peter (and the name Peter means
rock). "On this rock I will build my church."

And concerning Peter.. Matthew 16: 18 From the footnote in my Scofield KJV bible: "There is in the Greek a play upon the words, "thou art Peter [Petros-- literally, a little rock'] and upon this rock {Petra} I will build my church." He does not  promise to build His church upon Peter, but upon Himself, as Peter himself is careful to tell us {I Peter 2: 4- 9}  For Christ is the Chief Corner Stone…

St Peter became the first Pope.

ALL CHRISTIANS ARE SAINTS SO I GUESS I'M A POPE TOO? FOR ALL OF GOD'S CHILDREN ARE REFERRED TO AS SAINTS…    

The Catholic faith is the only one that can trace its roots back to
the establishment of Christianity during Christ's time on Earth when he
walked amongst men. No other Christian religion can make that claim.

WRONG AGAIN, CHRIST WAS BAPTIZED BY JOHN THE BAPTIST, (A TITLE NAME) AND CHRIST WAS THEREFORE A BAPTIST AND ESTABLISHED THE FIRST CHURCH UPON HIMSELF. JUST WHERE DO YOU THINK WE BAPTIST GOT OUR NAME, ANYWAY? THE APOSTLES WERE THE FIRST CHURCH AND BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, JESUS WHO WAS BAPTIZED OF JOHN AND FORMED THE FIRST CHURCH, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT...     

Again your obvious intolerance of the Catholic faith is not a Christian attitude.

MY BIBLE SAYS WE'RE NOT TO BE TOLERANT OF FALSE RELIGIONS BUT TO COME OUT FROM AMONGST THEM AND BE YE SEPARATE OF THE TRASH THEY TRY AND SPREAD, DECEIVING THE INNOCENT AND LEADING THEM INTO THEIR FALSE RELIGIONS AND THE PITS OF HELL... THE CHRISTIAN ATTITUDE IS TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST AND DO IT IN LOVE AND THIS WE DO. BUT WE DO NOT WALLOW IN THE MYER OF DECEIT OR CAST OUR PEARLS BEFORE THE SWINE... 

Matthew 7: 6  
[6] Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


I believe you have the right to choose your own faith and I respect whatever
you choose.

YOU CAN RESPECT THE FALSE RELIGIONS AND THE HELL BOUND FALSE TEACHERS IF YOU WANT TO BUT I DON'T INTEND TO. I'LL SHOW THEM COMMON COURTESY AND WITH THE LOVE OF JESUS TELL THEM HOW TO BE SAVED IF THEY ASK AND SHOW SINCERE DESIRE TO FIND THE TRUTH CONCERNING CHRIST. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T DESIRE THE ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON.   

 Many thousands of men and women gave their lives in various
wars over the years so you could have that freedom of choice.  

AND JUST WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES MY PATRIOTISM HAVE TO DO WITH THIS. I AM FULLY AWARE OF MY FREEDOM AND THE PRICE WHICH HAS BEEN PAID FOR IT. FOR GODLY MEN FORMED THIS COUNTRY AND THIS IS WHAT IT IS BASED ON. OR AT LEAST WAS BASED UPON. 

It is a freedom you should hold dear because it was bought with the blood of many.
Do not abuse it or use your own beliefs to slander some one else's.

I am not a student of theology THAT'S OBVIOUS but I do a lot of reading WHAT, THE FUNNY PAPERS and I have a strong belief in my faith.

WELL WHOOP DE DO. WHAT SATAN BELIEVING, HELL BOUND, FALSE PROCLAIMING CHRISTIAN DOESN'T? 

I will also defend my faith before anyone who chooses to criticize me for having that faith.

STATING FACTS ABOUT YOUR FALSE TEACHERS ISN'T CRITICIZING, OH, NO, IT'S CALLING A SPADE A SPADE AND A SERVANT OF THE DEVIL JUST WHAT HE IS. A DECEIVING, HYPOCRITE AND SNAKE IN THE GRASS ANGEL FROM THE PITS OF HELL ITSELF.....  

Believe what you will but do not use God's name through Christ in slandering overs.

SLANDERING, LOOK WHO'S TALKING. TELLING THE TRUTH ISN'T SLANDERING. CHRIST WASN'T SLANDERING WHEN HE SPOKE TO THE PHARISEES AND PRIEST... BUT HE DID BEGIN TELLING EVERYTHING IN PARABLES SO THEY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH AND BE CONVERTED.

Mark 4: 11, 12
[11] And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
[12] That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Luke 8: 10, 13
[10] And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
[11] Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
[12] Those by the way side are they that hear;
then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
[13] They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.


We believe in one God
the Father the Almighty
maker of heaven and earth
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ
The only Son of God
eternally begotten of the Father
God from God, Light from Light
true God from true God
begotten, not made
of one being with the Father
Through him all things were made
For us men and our salvation


He came down from Heaven
By the power of the Holy Spirit           
NOT SURE OF THIS WORDING

He became incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and was made man

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate
He suffered death and was buried
On the third day He rose again
In accordance wirth the scriptures
He ascended into Heaven
And is seated at the right hand of the Father
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead
And His kingdom will have no end

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life
Who proceeds from the Father and the Son
With the Father and the Son He is worshiped and glorified
He has spoken through the Prophets
We believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic church    

CATHOLIC (UNIVERSAL) I BELIEVE THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE TO BE LOCAL AND VISIBLE....


We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins 

OOPS, THIS IS ANOTHER BOO BOO AND SOUNDS LIKE THE CHURCH OF CHRIST CROWD AND OTHERS SEEKING SALVATION THRU THE WORKS OF BAPTISM... HONK! WRONG!


We look for the resurrection of the dead 

FROM WHERE? PURGATORY? YEA THE PLACE WHERE YOU PAY MONEY TO HAVE A PRIEST PRAY THE LOST DEAD SOUL OUT OF HELL INTO HEAVEN.... YEA RIGHT!
And the life of the world to come.

AMEN. 

AND THAT IS YOUR STATEMENT OF FAITH...

I also have an issue with the wealth of the various churches, including my
own. The Catholic Religion owns real estate in every continent and art and
tapestry treasures that are priceless. The Protestants own large tracts of
land everywhere also. Both have huge Cathederals worth millions of dollars
in various cities throughout the world. The Mormons basically own Salt Lake
City and a lot of the State of Utah in the USA. I don't know what the
wealth of the Baptist church is but I would guess it too would be
considerable. Television ministries are a multi million dollar industry.

YEA AND 99% OF THEM ARE TEACHING AND BEGGING FOR MONEY AND ARE AS FALSE AND DUPING AND TRIPPING UP FOLKS WANTING TO DO SOMETHING FOR GOD AND THESE FALSE SO CALLED LEADERS WILL STAND IN JUDGMENT BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD AND SPEND ETERNITY WITH THE ONE THEY WORSHIP… I BELIEVE THE FLAMES WILL BE HOTTER FOR THESE THAN THOSE THEY LED ASTRAY…


Through all this millions of people, especially children are starving in the
third world. World Vision tells us we can sponsor a needy child for $1.00 a
week (which I do). How many needy people could we feed if churches gave up
some of their wealth. I find it a little hypocrical to be so wealthy and to
preach the Word of God while watching others starve. I often wondere if
some (not all, their are many good people ministring God's work) so called
Men of God are not really Men of Greed.

You can do two things with this e-mail...... you can delete it and forget 
about it.....or you can reply to me...  

 WRONG ANSWER! THERE IS THREE THINGS I COULD DO WITH THIS E-MAIL.. THE THIRD ONE BEING PRINT IT OUT AND USE IT FOR KITE MATERIAL OR TOILET PAPER.. BI WON’T BECAUSE GOD SENT YOU THIS WAY FOR A REASON AN PERHAPS I’M THE ONE WHO’S SUPPOSED TO HELP YOU FIND YOUR WAY OUT OF THE PITS OF THAT FALSE RELIGION IN WHICH YOU FIND YOURSELF…  

I will be interested to see what you do.

You proclaim to be a Christian, so act like one and stop finding faults
with another's beliefs.

YOU WANTED TO SEE WHAT I'D SAY? WELL THERE IS A CATTLE CAR LOAD OF TRUTH FOR YOU AND HERE IS THE FINAL CONCLUSION…   YOUR IN A FALSE RELIGION AND IF YOU DIE IN THE STATE YOUR IN WITH YOUR CATHOLIC STATEMENT OF FAITH YOU SENT ME; THEN YOUR GOING TO SPEND ETERNITY IN THE DEVILS HELL YOU'RE WORSHIPING IN.

ON THE OTHER HAND IF YOU SHOULD SEE THE LIGHT AND REALIZE THAT CHRIST DIED FOR YOU ON THE CROSS, REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND BELIEVE ON HIM, NOT HIS MOTHER, BUT ON JESUS CHRIST AND PRAY TO JESUS CHRIST, AGAIN NOT TO HIS MOTHER OR SOME OTHER SAINT, POPE, PRIEST, PERSON OR STATUE, BUT TO JESUS AND ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOU OF YOUR SINS AND THEN ACCEPT HIM AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOUR, HE WILL SAVE YOU. AND THEN YOU CAN BE BAPTIZED IN A LOCAL BAPTIST, BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH AND BEGIN YOUR NEW REBIRTH AND CHRISTIAN WALK WITH CHRIST...  OTHER WISE;

Luke 9; 5
[5] And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT NOW. SO WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH JESUS? ACCEPT HIM AND COME OUT OF YOUR FALSE RELIGION AND BE SAVED OR HANG ON TO WHAT YOU HAVE AND SPEND ETERNITY HAND IN HAND WITH SATAN?

May God bless you

Karl

WELL KARL, YOU NOW KNOW WHY I HAVE WHAT I HAVE ON MY WEBSITE. IT IS A WARNING TO ALL WHO ARE LOST AND IN FALSE RELIGIONS SUCH AS YOURS... GOD HAS USED IT TO REACH AT LEAST ONE CATHOLIC PERSON AND BECAUSE OF IT SHE HAS COME OUT OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND IS NOW A BORN AGAIN CHILD OF GOD. AND FOR THAT I MUST GIVE MY HEAVENLY FATHER ALL THE CREDIT, THE PRAISE AND THE GLORY… FOR ONLY HE IS WORTHY OF THAT HONOR… SO HERE'S WHAT YOU DO SINCE YOU LIKE TO READ. TRY GOING TO THE ALLEGRE CHURCH SITE http://jimkeelingministries.com/allegrechurchsite/index/  AND READING WHAT BAPTIST BELIEVE, WHY BE A BAPTIST, BAPTIST DOCTRINE, AND MOST OF ALL THE TRAIL OF BLOOD AND SEE THE CHARTS… THE TRAIL OF BLOOD WILL EXPLAIN THE BAPTIST CHURCH, CALLED ANNA BAPTIST, AND WILL SHOW WHEN THE OTHERS RELIGIONS CAME INTO EXISTENCE…

May God have mercy on all those who wish to be saved or feel they have been saved but are struggling to go to heaven some other way other than thru the blood of Jesus Christ. I pray for those such as Karl who have thru a family tradition or false teaching have been tricked into believing a false religion. It may have a form of godliness but inwardly is filled with raveling wolves. I can only pray that God will use this ministry to help at least some see the truths of God’s word as found in the KJV Bible and that they will turn from their false religion, find Christ as their personal Saviour, and be born again. And for these who do I will praise God for His mercy and love. Well Glory!  

 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE MADE IT THIS FAR I HOPE THAT YOU'LL READ THE ARTICLE ON;     "CAN A CATHOLIC BE SAVED?"

Once again I Thank YOU for visiting with me... If you don't know my Jesus as your personal Saviour but would like to, why not, in your own words, ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins, acknowledge that you believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, suffered and gave his life on that old cross, shedding His pure blood as the ultimate sacrifice for you, and that on the third day arose from the grave and is on the right hand of God the Father in heaven both now and forever more. And then ask Jesus to come into your heart and save your soul, writing your name in the Lambs Book of Life.. If you have accepted Jesus today, that means that you are saved and born again. You have been adopted into the family of God just like me... I am then not only your friend but your brother in Christ.
Please write and let me know of that decision so that I might pray and rejoice with you.

May God Bless you,
 Jim

 

 


 

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