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Rodgers Testimony my Reply;  Is Hell Forever?


First allow me to thank you for your testimony found in my forum at;  
I am sorry that your mission field experience resulted in the mental breakdown which took 12 years to overcome... For the bible teaches that it truly is a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of the living God, both physically, or spiritually…

Hebrews 10: 30, 39 (emphasis on vs.31) 
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

But then, I need not tell you that because you’ve had years of experience. Because of your compassion for lost souls dying and in the knowledge that an eternity, ((everlasting, or as you put on your testimony, age to ages, all meaning the same thing, forever and ever, no ending,)) these souls will spend, in pain and torment, in the fires of hell became an unbearable reality. You were sensitive to the misery you knew was ahead of them and you’ve tried to block this fact out of your mind…

The simple truth is because of Adam and Eve’s sin we are all born into sin. We didn’t ask for it, we may not like the idea of it, but it is a fact of life and this we must deal with… God has given us a remedy for our sins and it came in the form of the God Man, Jesus Christ. His pure blood and ultimate sacrifice on the cross is the ONLY way for humans to be born again and saved from an eternity in a devil’s hell… And this we may only accomplish by faith and confession of mouth. Repent, confess with the mouth, and in faith believe as we ask God to save our souls, cover and then seal (Ephesians 1:  9, 13) our souls thru the Pure Blood of His Son, Jesus… And this is the good news Gospel of Christ. (I Corinthians 15: 1, 4) But this I assume you already know if you were a missionary and on a mission field…   


As for your site?

On your site you crossed off hope and inserted faith but your false bible (the good news that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. ) is not the true word of God but a cop out from Satan to deceive folks who don’t want to or mentally and compassionately unable, accept the fact that God is in control and it is His mind set and not the foolishness (I Corinthians 3: 14, 21) of the minds of men which determine the outcome of anything which He has made whether it be heaven or Hell… Faith is the key which saves and hope is the by product…

Hebrews 11; 1, 6


Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.


For by it the elders obtained a good report.


Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
worlds were framed Gen 1:1, Job 38:4, Isa 44:24, Rom 1:20, Col 1:16, Rev 4:11


By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
Cain Gen 4:5


By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
translated Gen 5:24, 2nd Kings 2:11


But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
rewarder Gen 15:1 Psa 58:11, Psa 84:11

God is real. Jesus Christ is real. The Holy Spirit is real. Heaven is real, and Hell is real… All of which are eternal. What you have done is, grabbed on to a philosophy of other men to ease your mind of the harshness of God and His judgment and plan of everything in this universe. Folks all want the love of God but not His chastisements, judgments, and certainly not His Wrath…

Hebrews 12; 3, 8


For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
fainted Gal 6:9, Rev 2:3


Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.


And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
Prov 3:11


For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Prov 3:12


If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
chastening Job 5:17, Amos 3:2, 1st Cor 11:32


But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

And so Rodger, while according to your testimony it is easier to follow God knowing but because of the difficulty and harshness of it, denying the truth of it and in so doing have become a false prophet yourself, having itching ears.

II Timothy 4: 3, 4


For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;


And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

 and following the lies of other false teachers caught up in their own worldly wisdom and guided by the father of all lies… You are not only deceiving yourself but others as well… And the very thing which drove you into a nervous breakdown is now causing weak Christians following your teachings to not learn nor grasp Bible truths… You May even cause lost souls to never find Jesus as Lord and Saviour in which case will cause them to spend eternity in a devils hell… And this is the very thing you witnessed and could not bear to witness…   

Revelations 20; 10, 15


And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
cast Matt 13:42, Rev 19:20


And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.


And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
before Matt 25:32, Rom 14:10, 2nd Cor 5:10


And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.


And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
cast Dan 12:2, Matt 25:46, John 5:29, Rom 2:8, Rev 14:11

Just a few of many more references;

THE FUTURE HOME OF THE WICKED - Ps 9:17; Pr 5:5; 9:13,15-18; 15:24; 23:13,14; Isa 30:33; 33:14; Mt 3:12; 5:29,30; 7:13,14; 8:11,12; 10:28; 13:30,38-42,49,50; 16:18; 18:8,9,34,35; 22:13; 25:28-30,41,46; Mr 9:43-48; Lu 3:17; 16:23-26,28; Ac 1:25; 2Th 1:9; 2Pe 2:4; Jude 1:6-23; Re 2:11; 9:1,2; 11:7; 14:10,11; 19:20; 20:10,15; 21:8

In conclusion;
the one thing I observed from your testimony but more so from your web site was the scripture or actually the lack and absence all together of it. You have a links page of like minded but false teachers, scholarly according to worldly standards with the credentials to back up their titles but unknowledgeable and un-led by the guidance of the Holy Spirit as to complete Bible truths.

You stated that many have replied to your testimony and most disagreed with you and most consider that the majority rules. You stated that none could refute the evidence you’ve given and for that reason you are continuing to go on as you are and publishing your teachings. Well Rodger, I don’t know about the majority ruling thing for it was a majority which crucified my Lord and Saviour in the first place. And it is hard to refute your evidence considering the fact you do not use Biblical scripture to back up your case…

On the other hand I, the entity of one, disagree with you and refute your evidence using the KJV Bible and many verses, (more if needed, the bible if full of them)… Whether or not you recognize this fact, you are the Wolfe in sheep’s clothing following after a man/men’s teaching rather than accepting the Word of God and allowing the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth... And the basic truth and facts of life is this. Man is born a sinner and condemned, guilty, and headed to spend all of eternity in a devils hell; UNLESS; he hears the gospel of Christ, the Holy Spirit draws this individual to Him, and he then repents, confesses, and in faith accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour... Period…

I applaud your compassion for your fellow man. I only wish all born again believers had more compassion for the lost… Folks all over the world are lost and dying and most without Christ. It is a sad fact and if Christians don’t tell them about the saving blood of Jesus; they have no hope and their (the lost souls) blood is on those Christian’s hands. Jesus didn’t save this ole preacher man, Jim Keeling, because I was or am worthy of His attention, love or respect. No! No! No! Jesus shed His pure blood on that cross of Calvary because He loved me but not my sin.

But more than that; He saved me and chose me, a poor wretched lost dying man in sin, to use as one of His servants, to spread the gospel far and wide. To tell a lost and dying world how to be born again and saved; To lead them to Him thru His Word so they won’t have to suffer the pangs of Hell for all eternity. And that is why He saved me and that is why He saved every born again Christian on this planet…

I’m still a wretched miserable sinner but with a twist and that is this; I’ve been born again, saved, my sinful soul washed clean by His precious blood, sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, and one breathe away from all eternity being spent in Heaven with my Lord and Saviour, Jesus. Well Glory! And if that doesn’t put you on shouting ground and you can’t say that, you need to check out your heart because it need a transplant…

What about it today folks? Have you been washed in the blood of the Lamb?

Isaiah 1; 18


Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Jesus has prepared a place for all of His Children.

John 14: 1, 6


Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.


In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.


And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.


Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?


Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1st John 5:20, Rev 3:7

Listen folks; Neither you nor I are promised another day, no, not even another hour nor even another breath. All we have is now.

II Corinthians 6: 2


(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Isa 49:8

Won’t you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour and then begin your new life following, learning, and serving Him?  My prayer is that the Holy Spirit will draw to Him, all who read this and that YOU will believe and be born again.

And Rodger, you know? I don’t like seeing the food chain in the animal kingdom being displayed on TV’s educational channel. But I realize that this food chain was all in God’s planning so that the weak and sickly wouldn’t reproduce more sick and weak animals. God designed it so that the strong would survive and continue on. Without Christ we are much like those sick and weak little animals of prey and Satan loves seeking whom he may devour. But when a person becomes a child of the King, he is born again strong and powerful with all the backing of the creator of the universe…

And ponder on this tid bit of facts. Jesus showed Himself as humble and meek at heart but one day will come as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and every knee shall bow to Him…  And this physically broken down old preacher man will be clothed in a brand new body, liken unto His body, and will come with and be with Him as He rules for all of eternity…  I Corinthians 15: 38, 58   

Well Glory!

May the Lord bless you as we grow in truth and wisdom,






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